Per page 1; 2; 3 > Christopher Sanders. Recording of Ken: Yeah., Recording of Pearo: We had a cold case file and I would go through old homicide cases, not so much as to try to solve them, but to see how guys worked them in the past and that sort of thing.. Two counts of first-degree murder. Henslee said he had fired Gilley a few days after the murders because of the tip that Gilley liked to harass couples on lovers lanes, but also said he had never seen any physical evidence to this day that ties Gilley to the crime., Recording of Ken: One of the comments Henslee made was that he didnt have enough power to influence a murder investigation. K: Next time on Uncovered: The Lovers Lane Murders. What really happened? Recording of Linda: I would just love to look him straight in the face and say What happened? They were from a .22 caliber weapon. He then jumped up and grabbed the boy by the shoulders, shoved him against the wall and banged the boys head against the wall several times.. Now he is not working at this time. They took in Sheryls ex-boyfriend for questioning. According to the Cleveland County Sheriff's Office, 30-year-old Austin Blake Godwin was booked into the Cleveland County jail early Wednesday, shortly after surrendering himself at the Norman Recording of Foster: Back then a lot more of that stuff what went on. Now, Gilley was living in Amarillo, presumably with his parents, Jacobson told us. K: Most of these testimonies didnt come as a shock to those intimately involved with the case. The funnel was just one instance of severe weekend weather in various parts of the U.S. Recording of Pearo: You could see some of the resentment from people who are now adults still going back to their college days and being really critical on the police. The Pearo retired in 2004 and moved to Florida where he spends time scuba diving. A suspect is in custody, the sheriff's office in Tate County, Mississippi, I tell Judy, They found her! On the night of the murders , his car logged only about 30. Recording of Ken: But we jumped in the car in Oklahoma City and drove out to Lubbock, drove all night. K: Linda told us about her dad, overcome with anger and sadness, jumping in the car one night a few months after the murders to go find Frank Gilley himself. . K: 1970. Gilleys attorney, Robert Perrine, said most of the evidence was not conclusive. K: The caliber of the weapon that killed Dave and Sheryl. And he answered a crucial question about why the case came into the spotlight again after nearly 20 years since the initial investigation. K: After finding the car and the bodies, officers from all of the agencies came together to sweep the area. It chronicles what Gilley called a scandal, telling detectives and reporters there was a plot against him. When you read Davids autopsy report, you find massive right hemoral thorax. But when you cant because of the way things are done, thats hard.. Recording of Linda: Our family was very close, very close. And so were not letting that go. DNA testing began right around the time this case was reopened for trial, but when it was discovered that almost all of the evidence had disappeared, it didnt matter. A Norman man has been arrested in connection with the murder of a Wellston woman whose remains were found at Lake Thunderbird, the Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation reported Wednesday. Recording of Pearo: So what we had done in retrospect was probably a mistake. When Davids mom arrived at the Benham house later that Sunday, Linda decided she was going to leave for Norman to see if she could help find Sheryl. WebOn Feb. 13, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation opened a suspicious death investigation after remains were found at the lake in Norman. The car was riddled with bullet holes. K: Frank Gilley lived in Texas working odd jobs until he died in March 2002, according to the Amarillo Globe-News. K: Mike Brake, the reporter who covered the case in its earlier days, said the same thing. In the safe we found some more weapons, one of them was a sawed-off shotgun, which is illegal. Potter County, where Gilley was working directly before he came to Norman, covers the northern half of Amarillo. One: Why a man with an aggravated assault charge in Texas had been hired as a Norman cop? Because of his mistrust in the intentions of other officers as the case unfolded through the years, Jacobson held onto it until he presented it in 1990 as the lone remaining piece of evidence. 112 GREAT OAKS DR, NORMAN, OK 73071 Property Report 145441690 K: Gilley had a clean official record until this incident in 1968. Recording of Pearo: There were a bunch of them that sat there and kind of kicked it around and decided that they werent going to go for an arrest warrant but wanted to go for a grand jury, which to me was very disappointing because Im a go get them arrest them kind of guy.. She looks like she died almost immediately. So I go, Dad did you find Sherry? We got several Norman officers lined up and walked across the area to see if we could find anything He told me, I knew that smart punk in Amarillo. At the time, I thought, Boy, thats a cold statement to make, the guy just got taken out of the trunk, he was shot a couple dozen times or so. He came up to me and volunteered that, none of the officers had anything to say, they just did what they had to do. State police officers came to assist. What do you think was the change there?, Recording of Linda: I dont know how to explain that. He probably has a .22 pistol. K: Jacobson left the OSBI almost a year later. She was just, oh, well-respected, very intelligent, just you know My dad was a very strict father, but he, uh, you just knew what to do and what not to do.. Dave and Sherry deserved something better than what they got and their families Maybe there is something in there we missed.. Sanchez was charged with possession of a firearm after a former felony conviction. Jacobson and a few other agents, like Norman detective Floyd Nash, dedicated themselves to finding enough hard proof to convict Gilley. Jacobson also testified. Maybe the war protesters from earlier that week had started rioting. I call, my dad picks up the phone. So we had him with an illegal weapon there in Dallas County. Recording of Linda: He looked at my mom and said, Sue, Im going after him and theyre not going to do anything, and he got his truck and took off and I know he had a rifle. We were very close. K: Perrine also focused on technicalities, like Gilley not being read his Miranda Rights at certain points or the lawfulness of using testimony from witnesses who had died before the trial started. This was a disappointment, but it paled in comparison to the news detectives received when they went to the OSBI to retrieve the rest of the case evidence. Two years later, it seems like charges might be put against Gilley, but nothing is certain. NOTES: GRADY CO Joshua Bookout. Date: 2/28 #1 DRIVING W/ LICENSE CANC/SUSP/REVOKED. K: Lubbock and Amarillo are nearly two hours away from each other. So you can get on our little system and see where something is so if something goes missing and then you would have the person transferring the evidence or the criminal list that has the evidence so something goes missing, it would be pretty easy to go in there and pinpoint. What truly happened to Dave and Sheryl is still and may always be speculation, but some people believe they have a pretty good guess. Recording of Ken: Well it was open but they didnt do anything on it The agent that was signed to that after I left, I doubt if he did half a dozen interviews. But I was. Lets go! Well, they did find her. He spoke of how Gilley admitted to him he did know David before the murders, though Gilley previously testified he had never met David. If you come across them, do not attempt to apprehend them yourself. They stayed at the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity house for a few hours, hanging out with friends. K: The first full day of the July hearing had testimony from seven witnesses, including Gilleys parents, a former wife and the Norman police chief from the 1970s, Bill Henslee. Many, if not most should be considered armed and dangerous. These types of crimes may include homicide, sexual assault, robbery, and physical Everytime I just about get it out of my head, somebody calls and says weve got a guy that thinks hes got the gun. She was 19. Recording of Pearo: We went down and we talked to a judge in Dallas. And then he said something about Well you couldnt even convict him again or something like that. Sanchez and his wife lived at the Ann Branden Boulevard apartment until October 2018, according to investigators. Recording of Minty: He just sat there quietly at the defense table the entire time. They checked his police car, finding that on an average night, he would drive well over 100 miles on patrol. Recording of Brake: Well the second one, the guys at the Norman Police Department really wanted to solve the darn thing. He was taken before a grand jury in Amarillo and indicted, given a suspended sentence and put on probation for an aggravated assault charge, though it was deemed a misdemeanor. Said if I went out in the woods and took off all my clothes, he wouldnt take me to jail.. Most of the case takes place in central Oklahoma and Northern Texas, but our story begins five days earlier in Kent, Ohio, on Monday, May 4, 1970. Dave Pearo and some of those guys, they really wanted to go after it.. Officers also started looking into Gilleys personal life, interviewing the woman he was married to in the 70s about his whereabouts the night of the murders. And said something like, You son of a bitch, youre not a real cop, I remember you from Amarillo, you got in trouble up there, Recording of Ken: David had a pool cue, a cut-off pool cue by the drivers door under his seat, and his friends tell us thats the first thing he drug out if there was going to be trouble. K: Ten days before Green told investigators what he knew about Gilley, they learned that multiple young couples had recently been harassed by an unknown man on lovers lanes. Description: DISTURBANCE/DOMESTIC. WebIf you reside in Norman, then there is a 1 in 321 chance that you will experience a violent crime. Recording of Pearo: This case was in there. Munoz told investigators he knew nothing about a dead body in the basement and gave them his consent to conduct a search. My mind was, Where could I go, what couldve happened? She drove me to Norman. He was working as a recent recruit to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation in 1970 and was assigned to the case full time. And on March 1, 1991, after roughly a month of testimony and deliberation, the second Cleveland County grand jury looking into Gilley returned an indictment. They felt the options were running slim, until February 1991. Grady. Why?, Recording of Brake: I think Gilley was just out there trying to get a glimpse of some boobies and harass some kids like hed done many times before and runs into somebody that knew who he was.. Two of Gilleys ex-wives testified, saying he never mentioned to them his work in Norman as a police officer, though they knew of his work in Amarillo. But in March of 1970, just two months before the murders, he was hired, by police chief Bill Henslee. Not only does the department interact with the Norman community on a more regular basis, but the hiring protocols for officers have completely changed. Ronald Lee McMullen Jr., who hails from Norman, was charged with first-degree murder after Kailee Jo McMullen was found deceased from a single gunshot wound to the face on the morning of June 29, 2017, according to a People Magazine report. If you see them, do not try and apprehend them yourself as they are most likely armed and dangerous. There would have been music, talking, some drinking, maybe dancing. Two: Why Henslee hadnt focused the investigation closer on Gilley from the beginning? On Nov. 21, 1990, officers were able to search Gilleys residence. And we started to hear this idea that the Norman police were covering themselves and trying to make up for the public outcry against them 20 years earlier. About 20 miles (32 kilometers) south of Oklahoma City, the Norman Police Department responded Sunday night to storm damage on the south and eastern sides of Norman. K: This is Linda Adams, the older sister of Sheryl Benham. The boy had been dropped off at a party in late May or early June 1968, and later in the evening he got into a fight until Gilley pulled him off. This one kind of absorbs you. K: Jacobson, who had been involved with the case from the very morning the bodies were found, was happy another set of investigators would take up where he left off. And they are locked in the trunk now, what are they going to do. They patted each other on the back, good to see you, and all that stuff. The sawed-off shotgun allowed them to arrest him for an illegal weapons charge, but eventually he was released to go home in Desoto, Texas. Hogue is now charged with first-degree murder in her sons death. NOTES: STEPHENS CO. More Info. Recording of Linda: Ken Jacobson, I remember that name a lot. And now I can talk about it without breaking down and crying. Because those guys werent even policemen when this thing happened. I would just bawl. Uncovered: The Lovers Lane Murders is a five-part investigative podcast into the murders of two teenagers in Norman, Oklahoma in 1970. What became the most important, Jacobson told us, was finding the murder weapon. K: Boden and her date Rick had been west of Norman, in the same area that David and Sheryl were just 30 days earlier. Recording of Ken: Well, Id been to law enforcement academy at LSU for 90 days and I got back that Sunday, Mothers Day was going to take a couple of days off but was going by the office to get my expenses I was actually in the bank parking lot, I remember where I was, and the chief agent called me on the radio and asked if I would go to Norman to help them with a vehicle theyd recovered in a missing persons case. Date: 2/28 #1 stephens co hold. That's -25.38% lower than the national rate of 387.8 per 100,000 people. Enhanced Cost of Living Calculator Now includes childcare, taxes, health, housing for home owners vs renters, insurance costs and more when you upgrade to premium. So got a lot of fire power.. And then he goes on duty and comes back in the police car and finishes them off., Recording of Brake: And you notice there were a couple bullet holes in the fenders of the car. My mother finally said, Ive got to call Ms. Sloan and tell her what is going on. My mother hung up the phone and said, She is on her way.. Because you know her parents were there. Recording of Ken: Its my opinion that there were a lot of folks working against us. An officer who cut into the plastic detected an odor that they could identify with a decomposing human corpse.. So theres checks and balances to make sure the stuff isnt happening. K: Four days later, Pearo and other officers arrested Gilley at the auto parts store where he worked and booked him once again into the Dallas County jail. Gilley took the test four days after the bodies were found. The judge for the jury was the former Cleveland County DA who had previously refused to go after Gilley, Jacobson said. At the end of episode two, we first heard the name Frank Gilley as a possible suspect in the murders of Sheryl Benham and David Sloan in early May of 1970. There was a carnival coming to town and classes were ending soon, so students were hosting parties. Soon after he testified, the jury began deliberations. Gilleys parents testified he was at his home the night of the murders, but his former wife said she couldnt confirm where he was that night. Recording of Linda: I thought whoopie, OK good, fine, you know? The phrase good ol boys was repeated to me several times. K: Slowly, multiple other young couples started to come forward and they told stories like this one, of being out in a lovers lane area and getting harassed by a man claiming to be with the sheriffs department. Brake lives in Oklahoma City, working part time as a public information officer for the OKC county commissioners office. K: Investigators on the case soon discovered that Gilley had been hired by Henslee without a background check or fingerprints taken, which we were told were normal hiring steps at the time. Thats what I wish., Recording of Linda: Oh hey, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it was so hard for me. The Benhams became close with investigators, especially Ken Jacobson, the lead investigator from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation. Recording of Pearo: The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, because they had helped out on the murder investigation as well and theyre the ones that have the labs and everything in the state of Oklahoma, so the evidence was all turned over the the OSBI. Police are still investigating the homicides of Elijah Mothershed, his fiancee Carnesha Powell and their daughter Roshawna Stevens. They walked up and down the field, finding a few things more bullets, mostly. WebCrime Statistics. K: This is Dave Pearo, a Norman police officer from 1981 to 2004. Detectives are actively completing a thorough and detailed investigation. Instead, immediately call the Cleveland County Sheriff's Department at 405-701-7700. Five days later, a few miles west of OUs campus, shots were fired again, ending the lives of two college students. Recording of Brake: Ava Yvonne Boden, this was her statement on Nov. 14, 1970. What do you think was the change there? But he signed off on the search warrant.. WebMost accurate 2021 crime rates for Norman, OK. It was a much smaller department then, often only a few police officers would be out patrolling the city at a time. Way past that 1991 trial. Gilley was white, 5-foot-8 and close to 180 pounds. WebBest Places to Live | Compare cost of living, crime, cities, schools and more. I think he just thought it was embarrassing to have the guy being investigated.. The case becomes exceedingly complicated and twisted from here on out, so be prepared. Investigators told me that they started to hear rumors, that GIlley had an obsession with lovers lanes, just like the one where David and Sheryl were found. Recording of Linda: This was one of the weirdest things ever. Four students were killed and nine others were wounded. Episode 1 youve got this policy thats a lot stronger than some other places. Police said the double-murder occurred late Tuesday night in this University of Oklahoma community 20 miles south of Oklahoma City. Certain convictions you cant have to get hired at a police department. Recording of Brake:Sheriff Johnston said he believed Gilley was very much capable of committing the type of crime that is involved in this case, he said in his opinion, GIlley was a very sadistic personality.. Using the testimonies from other young couples and from Butch Green, they eventually secured a warrant to search Gilleys home in Amarillo in December of 1970. WebNorman man arrested in connection with murder of woman found at Lake Thunderbird; Former Norman car dealer accused of tampering in criminal case; Body recovered at Lake He was tall with thick brown hair and a lean build. Gilley said he was not guilty. She told them he was home with her, but later recanted her statement, saying she didnt know exactly where he was. Oklahoma City, OK It was like, Hey look, that case will probably never go anywhere, so forget that one, you can look at the rest of them. Witnesses were dying, people were moving or losing track of them. The two stayed there for an unknown amount of time. Maybe hes just gone away and somebody will rescue them or find them. Norman investigators tried to use these charges to connect Gilley with Sheryl and Daves murders, but in the end, nothing ever came of that either. Pearo and his fellow investigators would drive to Dallas frequently, watching Gilleys house, following him to work, trying to put together enough evidence to arrest him. Be The twister tossed vehicles around including one on top of another. Dallas in De Soto, Texas, in the early 90s. When the couples started coming to police, investigators put together a line up of photos of officers. Recording of Ken: Well Frank and Henslee and the sheriff were all buddies from out there and so we asked Henslee if we could take a look at that letter and he couldnt produce it. Shortly afterward, he heard gunshots. When officers are tipped off to start investigating Frank Gilley as a suspect in the double homicide of David Sloan and Sheryl Benham, the Norman police force splits into two groups working against each other. A daughter of an ex-wife said Gilley told her he had killed someone and kept a diary of old cases with pictures of dead bodies. Its not that we know everything and that the other side of that is us hearing it but its that the public is coming to us and telling us because in the past, a lot of people didnt, it didnt affect them they didnt care or if it was affecting them they was too afraid to come to the police because theys like Ill just be in more trouble if I try to tell them were doing some wrong. There was a lot of talk about cover up from the chief of police back then and everything, so the whole thing just had kind of a bad smell to it I guess. Well, we shared the same bedroom. Its just that willingness to listen and to take action on those things.. Busken was abducted from her Norman apartment complex parking lot the morning of Dec. 20, 1996. And they did a good job, far as cleaning it up and everything.. A monthslong extradition fight began, ending in May 1991 with Gilley being brought to the Cleveland County jail. And I think he did use time as an ally to just cast some doubt on the allegations that were made and the accuracy of the allegations and the accuracy of the witness recollection. He said the politics were too much, that true policing was impossible because of it. Recording of Linda: Early the next morning, my sister had not come home and we knew something was wrong I remember my mother shaking me saying, Linda, Linda. Im like, What? She said, Have you heard from Sherry? Im like, What are you talking about? And I begin to hear all this, She never came home last night. My very first thought was Oh my god, Sherry, are you in trouble now. My dad was gone before daylight driving to Norman. The call came from a TV station in Amarillo, Texas, a few days after the murders. Well pick back up the day the bodies were found. And then relayed to me that that rifle actually belonged to his wife so he wasnt lying. Recording of Brake: He told me that if anyone asked me about a .22 rifle, which he might own, to tell them no. We were never able to get in contact with any of these family members, though. They were younger detectives and they knew that was kind of like a festering sore. (The US average is 22.7) Norman property crime is 40.9. This was the only physical evidence in the entire case. Davids fraternity went out to search the field as well, but they didnt find anything helpful. With the information from the previous investigation, the gun turning up and interviews with every single original witnesses, except one that died, detectives decided to try and get a warrant to search Gilleys De Soto residence. When we got upstairs, Mr. Gilley was filling out the paperwork on the Mexican boy and he asked the boy how much money he had and the boy said $10. He said yes Do you know if Gilley owned or had in his possession any .22 caliber weapons? 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